Is It OK To Use Grass Turf Right Up To Edge Of My Garden Pond?

I am interested in running turf right up to the edge of my pond. Is this a good idea? And how can I stop the turf sliding into the pond? James Crown, Devon

Answer: Not a good idea, especially if you are going to have Koi in the pool.

Nevertheless people still do it despite the problems of nitrates and phosphates leeching into the water from the turf and water siphoning out up through the turf and the Koi having wonderful time nibbling the turf. At least that saves strimming it and the inevitable oil slick from the strimmer head.

Professional landscapers minimise the water siphoning problem by holding the pool liner in place with a fillet of concrete laid in a shallow trench at a level with water level of the pool and just the other side of the outside rim of the pool hidden by overlying soil and turf. Apparently this upsets any capillary action in the soil.

When I have used turf on slopes, I have pegged it into place with small wooden pegs made from the forks of small branches of hazel, dog wood or spindle, because I've got a lot of it. You could use stout wire bent over to create a staple. Push it well in though.

Rowlawn do a turf grown on a net of nylon fibres which comes in nice wide strips (1 metre) and can almost be hung as a curtain it is so strong.

You might be interested to read the following that was an answer Peter May provided to another reader about a leaking pond

If you have soil or turf coming down into the pool, little capillary siphons set up in the soil.

If water gets down behind the stone facing a waterfall, the pressure of the water coming down the stream can push the water yards side ways because it has nowhere else to go. The water in the pool can act as an air lock, or just a barrier itself that aint going nowhere.

I had a raised pool that I built for someone that had a stone face down to the marginal shelf about a foot down. It had a really long stream down to it that would cause a fair amount of water to evaporate. It would lose about an inch a day in the hot days of summer. BUT some days it would lose nearly a foot.

The customer thought there was a leak in the stream, which we dutifully dismantled suspecting mice having gnawed through the liner. No holes. That took two of my three days.

What seemed obvious now was that the liner had something wrong with it behind the wall because it never lost water below the level of the wall. But before we dismantled the wall I asked the customer if perhaps he had filled the pool right up to the top the night before there was a big leak. He said of course he did, because how would he know that it had leaked some much otherwise.

So then I asked how full he filled it. He said he just left the hose in it and let it fill to over flowing.

Instead of dismantling the wall, I drilled little holes in the pointing of the capping slabs round the pond. And they solved the problem. There was a little siphon setting up in the mortar that sucked the pool dry, dragging the water up behind the wall and behind the outside wall, out onto the gravel around it.

When we build waterfalls we insert little plastic tubes (about every foot or 18inches) between the stones at the base and these relieve the pressure from the waterfall and provides somewhere for the water to drain. Also I use a lot of smooth pea shingle to backfill behind big stones. That helps.

When I first read you email I though of the best sealant, before I thought of the real solution. With every sealant there is a time when it eventually packs in on you and you are back to square one. This is generally after the first icy weather. Anyway, here it is. We have a product in the UK called G4 which I think is a cellulose sealant. What is good about is that you can paint it cement or concrete when its wet and it will follow the water down into the material to seal it deep down in. It also seals one material with another. So if you had a wooden chute coming down to a stone sill, it would seal the two into a unit. it is very useful for sealing in the lime that washes off fresh concrete products into pools. Also, you can get in a black, brown, green and red and clear gloss or matt. Brilliant stuff and stuff that good doesn't come cheap.

IF you want I can find out where you get a G4 equivalent in the States, But I'd recommend some experiment with a small masonry drill first. BUT mind you don't drill through the liner!.

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